Pixelation

Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Oceans Dream on April 03, 2007, 01:06:43 am

Title: Park
Post by: Oceans Dream on April 03, 2007, 01:06:43 am
Something I'm working on for a project (Basically taking a photo and making a pixel art scene of it, but also removing the trash and stuff that's in the original photo) . 17 colors total. Feedback/comments/critiques encouraged!

Old version:
(http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/8516/completeparkpixelnw7.png)

New version:
(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7851/15colorparkjv1.png)

Photo:
(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6530/picnicpixelis0.png)
Title: Re: Park
Post by: Wakka on April 03, 2007, 01:26:57 am
The background scene looks a little weird. What is it?
Title: Re: Park
Post by: InvaderLupus on April 03, 2007, 01:45:55 am
would you mind posting your reference photo?
Title: Re: Park
Post by: Oceans Dream on April 03, 2007, 01:54:36 am
The blueish background is supposed to be water. (Since I had to basically make up that part, I think it probably didn't turn out as well as the rest)

Here. I didn't want the people or the buildings/benches in the background either, so I got rid of those.
(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6530/picnicpixelis0.png)
Title: Re: Park
Post by: Xion on April 03, 2007, 02:02:40 am
The shadows of the more distant trees are too long. If they were really that long, they'd go on for...miles, maybe? I also think the water's horizon is too high. It needs more specular hilights. Y' know, make it glitter...I mean sparkle...
On some trees it looks like they're being viewed from slightly above.
Title: Re: Park
Post by: Oceans Dream on April 03, 2007, 02:46:58 am
Thanks for the comments!

Sure, I could add sparklies to the water, I like sparklies.

As for the long shadows for the trees, you mean the 2 trees on the right side next to the big tree? Just want to make sure before I go off to make changes. And which trees are you referring to as being viewed from slightly above? I don't really notice it, but I guess I'm too used to seeing/making tiles for RPGs or something. But I'll gladly make the changes once I see exactly what you're referring to.
Title: Re: Park
Post by: Xion on April 03, 2007, 03:40:00 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/Xionight/completeparkpixelnw72.png)
The red lines are what I would change. The blues are what you seemed to have.
I really like the grass, but the trees, aside from the rightmost one and middle-left one, don't seem to match the same...y' know, feel. They're kinda cartoony on top of that realistic grass. You see how all your trees go into the ground with a kind of downward curve? That's mostly what makes them look like they're top-down. Also the way some of the leaves hang down and overlap the trunks.
Mmm...I dunno...take what you will. Hope I helped.

(oh yeah, that one tree had a branch that looked a bit gimpy. I gave it some muscle. Felt sorry for the li'l branch, ya know? ;))
Title: Re: Park
Post by: Oceans Dream on April 03, 2007, 05:33:08 am
Awesome, that helped a lot!

Alright, so I tried fixing it up and this is what I have.
(http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/6149/completeparkpixelnw7vd1.png)
Title: Re: Park
Post by: Wakka on April 03, 2007, 05:47:07 am
Hey that looks much better, good job :y:.
Title: Re: Park
Post by: mangust on April 03, 2007, 01:46:51 pm
Yes, it's very good work! ))
But not enough colour penetration in shadow trees. In light you use some colors from leaves, but in shadow not and trunk of tree be seem graven from another picture. Use it and this work will be more beautiful.
Maybe my quick edit help you.
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/713/treespark001ur0.gif)
I am waiting you sky  :y:
Title: Re: Park
Post by: ceddo on April 03, 2007, 07:07:32 pm
That grass in the center looks photo-realistic, great job on that.
However, the water in the background doesn't really translate as water to me. You made a dark line of blue where the sea met the land, and that gives it a strange form (makes it appear like some sort of gel rather than water). Get rid of that, and add some sand/rocks/vegetation to make the transition between the park area and the water smoother.
Title: Re: Park
Post by: Oceans Dream on April 03, 2007, 08:52:55 pm
Alright, awesome. I worked on it some more, and added a Sky:

Worked on the water too, hopefully it's better now.
(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7851/15colorparkjv1.png)
Title: Re: Park
Post by: Chalk on April 04, 2007, 03:28:28 am
This is looking very good. my one suggestion would be to make the flower a red. basic color theory. if you have a tiny bit of red in an almost green composition it will really stand out.
Title: Re: Park
Post by: Turbo on April 04, 2007, 04:07:11 am
The grass texture and trees shadows' shapes makes the terrain on the background look flat, losing the perspective effect. If you notice the reference, the further the trees are from us, the more their shadows change from blobs into horizontal lines. The grass on the furthermost terrain is rendered to show the same detail as the one closest to us, which also removes depth effect; try suggesting texture through smaller and subtle grass shapes.

While the whole piece looks great, there seems to be a discrepancy of styles: the trees look cartoony, with large blobs of color, while the grass looks realistic. Just stating that :)

You could push for more depth on the leaves by showing greater contrast between the trees' groups of branches (not changing the colors, but having big changes in contrast between leaves of trees at different distances from the observer).

Great rendering, palette and texturing!
Title: Re: Park
Post by: Frychiko on April 04, 2007, 08:42:16 am
This is looking fabulous! Great job!

There's a real issue with the perspective making the image look flat, not sure how to fix it though. But these are my thoughts:
- You've got three rows of trees, and all three rows are equally distanced, so depth is lost.
- the tree shadows on the floor aren't consistent (some suggest low horizon level, some suggest high horizon level

With your latest image, you have an orange sky. But you've done all your shading using white light, which looks really out of place.

May I tinker with the image? Do you have a PSD file or something?

Title: Re: Park
Post by: Oceans Dream on April 05, 2007, 06:59:21 am
I don't use Photoshop for sprite work, so no psd file for them.

(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8886/treesre7.png)

(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/43/skybackgroundch0.png)

(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5016/grasspl3.png)

(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/37/watersv6.png)

The Sky, Grass, and Water got merged with some other stuff and I didn't save the original layers. I did save the tree layers though.

The comments here have been very useful, thanks for them! (Though I do want to make other backgrounds...)