Pixelation
Critique => Pixel Art => Topic started by: Ryumaru on February 22, 2007, 11:09:06 pm
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(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2699/cyclops7cx6.gif)
i want to go far with this image, rip it to shreds with crits please and thankyou.
about an hour and a half in so far, done in promotion.
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looks great, although it seems as if he's got his belly pushed up against a plane of glass. This is due to the way the highlights are curved around in a circular way as if it is the end of a cylinder.
Also the arm on the right side of the image has no bicept mass in comparison the the other arm where it is bulging.
another thing to think about is if he is suppose to be obese how much muscle should be ripped like that. the arms dont look obese at all.
i like the colors and the face is interesting
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As much as i love your one-eyed monsters - why not 2 eyes for a change ;)
great pallette, would like to see this extended beyond his thighs though
KUTGW
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alex: i see what youre talking about, will fix. hmm, i dont really think his arms are very ripped at all, plus most figures that are obese have quite a bit of muscle mass behind it, so i think its reasonable.
feron: im definitely too lazy to go beyond the thighs. as for the eyes, i kept it at one because he has no interesting design features( accesories etc) so im keeping him a cyclops for interests sake.
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accesories etc)
Now you just HAVE to give him a handbag and matching shoes!! :lol:
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The red seems so out of place, but that seems to be the case with most of your works. Other than that, the colors look cool (no pun intended). His neck looks a bit odd. Give him nipples too, please. :y:
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hmm, i dont really think his arms are very ripped at all, plus most figures that are obese have quite a bit of muscle mass behind it, so i think its reasonable.
His right arm, at least for my 2 cents, is SUPER RIPPED. He looks like the hulk. And while you are quite right that fat people or creatures can have a lot of muscle, it is behind the fat. Meaning, it lacks definition! However, from where I'm standing, this is all irrelevant, I think the muscley arm looks quite good on this character! The only thing I would change as you move forward is you've put 5 or 6 fatty rolls into his otherwise very smooth looking belly, there on the left side of the image. They're shaded quite dark, and they're just reading as strange skin features, rather than fatty grossness (unlike the excellent pectoral highlights).
And, this may be irrelevant, but how did he get so fat without a mouth?
EDIT - mccow he already has one, how many does he need :P
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feron: he doesnt have the money to buy those unfortunately, his boyfriend left him when he was caught cheating one drunken night :/
mccow: i think my update will fix the neck.
adam: i dont see his arm as defined at all, maybe im just use to defining muscles too much. ive gotten rid of those little ripples.
(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5002/cyclops11yb8.gif)
i gave him a dick because im tired of drawing genderless organisms.
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Maybe I just don't get it, but the neck area really isn't working for me.
Don't know what's going on with his right shoulder, but I think it looks really disgusting.
Also, the dick could use some work. Look at some Ancient Greek/Roman statues - David might be a good reference too.
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the neck seems to be in 360 O.o and the belly still seems to have a plain part.
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faceless: nah, its probably the piece. ill probably be searching some turkey neck refrences for it soon. good, disgusting is what im going for : D. as for his babymaker, ill look at some sculptures for it( i hope that i dont end up editing it the most out of anything else in the piece)
kren: i see what your saying about the neck, maybe i could exxagerate it and make him even more disgusting that way. what do you mean by plain part?
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well, disgusting meaning it's sticking out at such an angle that it doesn't look too cool?
i also think his right bicep stands out too much. it's like a sphere attached to his arm.
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hmm I mean this:
looks great, although it seems as if he's got his belly pushed up against a plane of glass. This is due to the way the highlights are curved around in a circular way as if it is the end of a cylinder.
It still look that way, so there is a plain part. This is my edit(Changed the face even though it didn't ended nice, the neck, the shoulder, and the plain part):
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Krensprite/edit-1.png)
Apart from that, I am amazed with the colours you are using, it gives it a realistic feel.
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Just wondering, but what are you trying to show about obesity? Is it good? Is it bad? Is it fat?
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Just wondering, but what are you trying to show about obesity? Is it good? Is it bad? Is it fat?
Since when do pixel art pieces have themes? ???
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Just wondering, but what are you trying to show about obesity? Is it good? Is it bad? Is it fat?
good, disgusting is what im going for : D.
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one eye again? :P
cmon ryu, give him atleast 2 eyes
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alkaline: i think i may have fixed his bicep since the update, i will put that into account though.
kren: basically you are saying i should take away the major highlight of his stomach?
soup: if anything im trying to get away from my normal great physique, perfectly shaped bodied, extremely ripped figures; if only for one piece. does this guy convey strength and power without such muscularity? if so ive accomplished one of the goals for this piece. im definitely trying to convey grossness aswell.
takam: ok, ok. but 2 eyes wont do, he shall have 3.
edit:
wait, who needs eyes? eyes are overrated.
(http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9382/cyclops14rb2.gif)
i cant tell if i like how it looks though. also any help with the forearms would be appreciated, i dont really know how to go about them or the hands really.
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The arm position is very limp. It's as if he slept on his arms and then woke up and they're dangling about. The muscles are strained as if they're carrying motor function weight, but they're just hanging there. Hands and arms are very expressive, you should use them to portray both function in a storytelling setting, and also emotion. Right now they're doing nothing. They're the biggest fault of the piece, in my opinion.
edit: an idea perhaps
(http://www.locustleaves.com/beef.png)
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the left (his right) shoulder seems underdeveloped. I think it's lacking structure. The hand on the same side also has a weird pose to it. I'm not sure if anyone stands with their palms facing forward, it seems very forced, especially since his arms are limp. Also, the anatomy of his member seems... off. Maybe study some groin structure...? ;)
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The colors are good--almost reminds me of Metroid.
I don't like the muscle below where the ears should be (no ears!?!) it's too....muscular...for somebody so blubbery...the chin is also defined too much. See this (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/images/1027-06.jpg).
The eyes, or eye holes rather, are not far enough apart (remember the "one-imaginary-eye-between-each-eye" rule of thumb).
But other than that, I'm liking this..can't wait to see it done. :y:
Oh yeah, and that right hand is BEGGING for a television remote control.
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helm: thank you so very much for that edit, it is helping me alot. what are some of the other faults you are finding in this piece?
stwelin: could you explain more what you are talking about? is it maybe i failed to make it look like that shoulder is in a position where it is receding like that and it just seems to be smaller than his other shoulder?
rydin: ironically those muscles are jaw muscles which are used in chewing. ive made it where they arent defined at all, considering he has no mouth. ive also seperated the eye holes more.
thank you for all the comments everybody, i will continue to update.
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The fat on a women's chest is shaped that way because of the hormones releast. The fat on a mans chest starts on the chest, hangs down and then rolls under the arms. Essentially for a person of that size, their arms would be pushed further outwords due to the fat under their arms. Also, if someone was that large, their exessive breathing would mean a larger diaphram, pushing the muscle under his chest further outwords. I think the legs being also more defined would help, as a guy that big would need some real fire power in his legs just to get through the day.
It's coming along nicely, I hope my crit helped.
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soup: if anything im trying to get away from my normal great physique, perfectly shaped bodied, extremely ripped figures; if only for one piece. does this guy convey strength and power without such muscularity? if so ive accomplished one of the goals for this piece. im definitely trying to convey grossness aswell.
To me he feels a little bit too.... tight? Strong, overweight people are a tremendous challenge compared to simply creating fat people or strong people in that you have to first create the body of a strong man; muscles over a skeleton which for the most part obey tension and a little bit of gravity. then you need to bring the fat over that, which obeys tension slightly, but mostly obeys gravity. hers a bit of an illustration of what i mean:
(http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/3180/untitledei4.gif)
If it helps, think of this as a very strong man "wearing" fat over his muslces.
Hope this makes sense. i like the piece so far
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not many of the latest crits have been taken into account yet, so i will wait and respond to those replies once i get around to those crits.
(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/371/cyclops22cl6.gif)
this is the piece right now
and here is a progress anim so far:
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5169/progressanim1ei9.gif)
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Are those supposed to be...abs?
I hope they're just lumps.
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I'm still not keen on the head. Maybe you could try experimenting with various masks? I think a gas mask could look good.
The arm with the clenched fist looks really stiff when compared with the other arm. Better shape on the dick, but I don't think the fade to white is really working at all on his lower body. It's too sudden a transition from that dark teal. The difference in shoulder structure is a bit jarring to me.
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faktablad: they are definitely just fat lumps. its a tecnique that i see quite a bit of artists use at conceptart.org.
faceless: yeah, im not satisifed with the head at all either. hmm, im quite partial to the fade in, but if it doesnt work it will go.
i think most issues of this piece are because of its wipness, sadly not even his entire body is completely fleshed out yet.
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helm: thank you so very much for that edit, it is helping me alot. what are some of the other faults you are finding in this piece?
I find the head design really uninspiring, one-eye or two. You've made too many of the same-looking creatures for me to be excited, but this might not be an issue with people who see your art for the first time, so that this as you will.
the arms still are malformed, uneven and bloaty (especially forearms). I'd suggest working with more reference. The muscle tissue doesn't seem to lace around bone and such, it's just a collection of idealized muscle you might consider good to draw.
On the other hand thecolors are interesting, the background gives it more interest and generally a mood is achieved. However I can't help but see the flaws strongly.
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helm: i dislike the head aswell. i think that by giving this guy such size, i have forgotten to realize that there is a bone structure, that the muscles are attached to, and the fat is over. ( which adarias's wonderful drawings enforces)
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I'd like to see you try cloth.
Well, I third the statements against the head. Looks like you crowded the "eyes" in and now they're really close together. I think it'd be cooler if the eyes were on opposite sides of the head, like a horse or a fish. Then have a long, slobbery toung loll our of his mouth and drool on his moob for extra disgust.
I really like the background so far reminds me of a subway station.
I also ditto the dislike of the fade to white at the bottom of him. It seems so forced.
Why do his moobs have such brighter hilights than anything on his belly?
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bab: ive extended his arms outwards and think it helps alot, thankyou. i dont know if ill add definition to the legs, there already massive, i dont think theres a need for definition.
xion: maybe something like this? i like it, almost comical in my eyes.
(http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4430/cyclops27jw2.gif)
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Haha, yeah like that sorta. But the slobber looks more like veins. Or an upside down tree. And the tongue is bent in such an odd way that it would be more fitting if you didn't make like it was supposed to be resting on his chest but instead just like hovering there all nastily or something.
Ack! Just looking back on some of my posts I realize how many spelling errors I've made. I gotta fix that.