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Feature 04 - Tank

on: February 24, 2007, 05:54:59 pm
It's a tank!
I know I should have waited with dithering and detailing etc. But I'm bored, have a headache, and I'm pissed, so I wanted something to do.
Here it is:
NEWEST:
OLDEST: White outlines:
Tell me which one you prefer.
The design is Metal Slug inspired. 12 colours inc trans.
Any comment welcome.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2007, 03:56:09 pm by Panda »

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Re: Tank

Reply #1 on: February 24, 2007, 06:03:25 pm
the left one is much better, the white outline adds nothing.  I'd darken the little antenna bits coming off the roof, they look a little foregroundy right now.  The bit of armor extending over the treads looks too flat and weird - the shading is rounded, questionably, and there is no indication of thickness or volume to it.  The blob on the side of the tank seems a little soft and confusing in shape and purpose.  I'd like to see the front of the armor, between the treads there, have some more details, it's a little dull right now.  The treads are pretty sloppy, both in color application and general shape and size.  The interior of the wheels need to be shaded darker.

I like your colors, and I love metal slug, and generally speaking your lighting and shading is solid; only the antennas, wheels and treads strike me as problematic renderings in that sense.  The dithering is well done, and it adds a weathered texture to the surface that works very well.  I think its mainly the linework that is really lacking in this piece; if you fix the lines for the treads, the front armor, the blob on the side, and maybe a little work on the main gun, you will have a pretty solid piece here!

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Re: Tank

Reply #2 on: February 24, 2007, 06:06:54 pm
Don't ever dither metal.
Metal is smooth and shiny.

What's up with the left side?
I see a wheel then some random block, and then another wheel.
The perspective looks weird cause it's overlapping the tire.

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Re: Tank

Reply #3 on: February 24, 2007, 06:52:49 pm
that's not the greatest advice, dithering can easily be applied to create a metal texture.  Right now dithering covers the entire piece.  Make more areas of solid colour and dither more sparingly.

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Re: Tank

Reply #4 on: February 24, 2007, 07:13:47 pm
if you want the dithering to still cover the entire piece, interlace dithering could be used to give a smooth metallic effect.

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Re: Tank

Reply #5 on: February 24, 2007, 07:20:42 pm
Thanks everyone, especially Adam.
Souly: I think dithering can work fine on metal. Just an example:
http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/5823.htm

Here's an edit, I hope it fixes most problems:
New   Old
-Heightened the gun by 1 pixel.
-Fixed the rough shading and lines on the tracks.
-Fixed the shading on the side part.
-Gave the part inbetween the wheels more depth, and let it overlap the back wheel instead of the front.
-Added some stuff to the front armour to make it more interesting.
-Fixed antennas.
-Darkened the wheels.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2007, 03:58:19 pm by Panda »

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Re: Tank

Reply #6 on: February 24, 2007, 07:39:07 pm
I think that's a big improvement.  The piece around the treads that confused Souly still needs a little work I think - maybe just make it extend an extra pixel upward so that it doesn't seem so thin over the top of the tread there?

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Re: Tank

Reply #7 on: February 24, 2007, 07:48:35 pm
I think that's a big improvement.  The piece around the treads that confused Souly still needs a little work I think - maybe just make it extend an extra pixel upward so that it doesn't seem so thin over the top of the tread there?
Hmm, my English is good, but I'm still not sure what is ment here. Something like this?:
« Last Edit: September 16, 2007, 03:58:39 pm by Panda »

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Re: Tank

Reply #8 on: February 24, 2007, 09:38:02 pm
It's not really the fact that you dithered metal that bothers me.
It's just such a boring dither nothing but 1x1 pixel grid.

Try learning some new dither techniques.

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Re: Tank

Reply #9 on: February 24, 2007, 10:11:20 pm
It's not really the fact that you dithered metal that bothers me.
It's just such a boring dither nothing but 1x1 pixel grid.

Try learning some new dither techniques.
That I do not apply different dithering techniques doesn't mean I don't know any:

Not sure if I like it though.
Could anyone inform me on what interlaced dithering is? I don't know that.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2007, 03:59:12 pm by Panda »