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[WIP] Portrait (Need help with the hair)

on: May 03, 2017, 12:27:42 am
hi everyone
This is my first attempt of a character portrait. i got some problems with the hair(still does not convince me) and the shadows. i ve seen a lot of hair tutorials but... i dont get it

Any critique in another aspect of the drawing is welcome
« Last Edit: May 08, 2017, 02:26:48 am by Araņa Feliz »

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Re: Portrait WIP

Reply #1 on: May 03, 2017, 12:31:06 am
Remove the hair entirely and start that bit over, you've got hairline and texture problems you need to work with so it doesn't look like a bunch of melted chocolate.

If you post without the hair on I'll do an illustrative gif showcasing what I mean.

Also, the cloth facemask looks really out of place, like it both constricts the bottom of her face inward as well as not having proper shading on it.

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« Last Edit: May 03, 2017, 03:24:17 am by MysteryMeat »
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Re: Portrait WIP

Reply #2 on: May 03, 2017, 04:46:56 am
Here is

And about the mask, its the outline of what I want it to be, the base i mean

oh, and thanks for reply!
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Re: Portrait WIP

Reply #3 on: May 03, 2017, 05:21:53 am
Ah, hm.
Well, first problem I'm noticing is you seem to be just freehanding it. Fill out the head as if she's bald first, then post that!

Once that's done, figure out the hair lines! Basically, the hair lines are the big divides on our scalp where hair stops and starts. There's parts on the left and right side of your hair, for example, and your hair usually stops at the forehead too!
The concept here is to try and figure out those bigger groups so you have an easier time directing hair in a believable way.

An illustrative example I made:

PSA: use imgur
http://pixelation.org/index.php?topic=19838.0 also go suggest on my quest, cmon
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Re: Portrait WIP

Reply #4 on: May 07, 2017, 02:11:57 am
Ah, hm.
Well, first problem I'm noticing is you seem to be just freehanding it. Fill out the head as if she's bald first, then post that!

Once that's done, figure out the hair lines! Basically, the hair lines are the big divides on our scalp where hair stops and starts. There's parts on the left and right side of your hair, for example, and your hair usually stops at the forehead too!
The concept here is to try and figure out those bigger groups so you have an easier time directing hair in a believable way.

An illustrative example I made:



hey, i made low res version of the face, what do you think?



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Re: Portrait WIP

Reply #5 on: May 07, 2017, 03:00:16 am
thaaat's just a circle. you're using the hairline right for the part since the lines are supposed to be the edge of the hair source, but it didn't look like you were going for an afro here.

You don't need to do it exactly like me, people's hair parts differently! here, I redid this based on your original post:


This one is, as usual, a bit lazy (especially the highlighting, yikes) BUT! The big thing these help with is where hair starts to drape down, where parts in the hair are, and natural places to slap down mussed up hair bits.
Hope that helps!
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Re: [WIP] Portrait

Reply #6 on: May 07, 2017, 02:58:19 pm
OK
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Re: [WIP] Portrait

Reply #7 on: May 07, 2017, 07:44:20 pm
thaaat's just a circle. you're using the hairline right for the part since the lines are supposed to be the edge of the hair source, but it didn't look like you were going for an afro here.

You don't need to do it exactly like me, people's hair parts differently! here, I redid this based on your original post:


This one is, as usual, a bit lazy (especially the highlighting, yikes) BUT! The big thing these help with is where hair starts to drape down, where parts in the hair are, and natural places to slap down mussed up hair bits.
Hope that helps!
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Re: [WIP] Portrait

Reply #8 on: May 07, 2017, 10:30:49 pm
Looking better, but remember that her hair isn't on a flat plane towards the camera! Her scalp curves away, with it how it is right now it looks like the top half of her head is looking down while the rest is looking almost straight-on!

Keep poking at it though, you're getting close! The hair grouping itself looks excellent, just re-work the angling!
PSA: use imgur
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