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Anatomy Study Dump

on: February 18, 2017, 05:45:40 am
Hi, I'm still alive! So, I'm kind of putting the chibi request on hold because I wasn't really having fun with it, and I felt like I was doing a sub-par job with it. So, to get me back into drawing, I'm going to make myself a portrait based off a drawing that a friend did for me: http://i.imgur.com/Oyd2vYK.png

After about an hour, I traced over a little sketch I made and now I'm here:

Obviously there was not a whole lot of work put into it, I'm simply just getting back into the groove of things and setting what base colors I'm going to use. Right off the bat I can tell that the neck is too long and that the face is a bit too round. Do you guys see any other glaring issues other than those?


EDIT: I'm turning this thread into a dump for any anatomy study that do. Hopefully I can learn a lot from this.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2017, 04:41:58 pm by Capta1n_Henry »

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Re: Personal Portrait

Reply #1 on: February 19, 2017, 01:08:01 am
There's a lot wrong here, I'm sorry to say. Rather than work off your friend's art, instead try working from bones. Skulls in particular are a good thing to trace over then copy freehand, it will seem intimidating at first but doing this will give you a far better eye for facial structure.
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Re: Personal Portrait

Reply #2 on: February 19, 2017, 01:32:29 am
If you do a straight trace you're not building up forms.

Check this out:



Completely screwed, proportionally and stylistically compared to the ref, but it drives home the point. If you're trying to construct, you construct.

Notice you don't have to build up a skeleton, layers of muscle fibers and fat and skin every single time if you're not aiming for strict realism. Of course it's a worthy exercise but it's waaay ahead of your level I think. You work your way up to it.

Now I'm divulging here, but I notice lack of construction is happening over and over in your work. Why are you neglecting to study that? I'm serious, man, it's gonna pay off 10x in your future work. You're pretty young, so learning this soon will put you ahead of the game and maybe ahead of me someday.

Try the first 2 books here. Redacted, sorry :[  -Crow

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Re: Personal Portrait

Reply #3 on: February 19, 2017, 04:32:39 am
Hmm, well in that case... I think I'll turn this thread into one that I'll dump all of my learning of anatomy into. Or should I just make a new thread entirely?

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Re: Personal Portrait

Reply #4 on: February 19, 2017, 01:28:30 pm
For your pixel stuff, keep it here but maybe edit the first post to change the thread title so that people know you're looking for anatomy feedback.
If you're going to do things in other media, you could post it in the Daily Sketch thread, lots of people post their anatomy studies there.

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Re: Anatomy Study Dump

Reply #5 on: February 20, 2017, 08:39:57 am
Ok, after reading the first book a little bit, I managed to make this head:



I traced a picture that I drew based on one of Loomis's faces: http://i.imgur.com/F2mqv37.jpg

How did I do?

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Re: Anatomy Study Dump

Reply #6 on: February 20, 2017, 10:41:56 am
A definite improvement, but if you're going to trace do so from real life references. Loomis is an excellent resource for beginners though, good instinct. Start with Fun with a Pencil!
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Re: Anatomy Study Dump

Reply #7 on: February 21, 2017, 01:28:37 am
The whole idea about the technique is to try and get you thinking in 3 dimensions, and from there to be able to draw from memory. Currently you are entirely limited to 2 dimensions in your thought process.

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Re: Anatomy Study Dump

Reply #8 on: February 21, 2017, 02:06:34 am
Ok, after reading the first book a little bit, I managed to make this head:



I traced a picture that I drew based on one of Loomis's faces: http://i.imgur.com/F2mqv37.jpg

How did I do?

Get a reference and check it out



-your face/skull is too wide
-your eyes are too high up - not sure if the circle actually refers to the eyeball or the yeshape. If it's a normal frontal eye, they have quite a different shape though.
-also the lines from the point of the ear down to the chin should be slightly inward rounded, though that line is actually not really "evident" in a face and rather something loomis drew as construction help.

so yeah, really focus on getting the basic measurement (in this case width to height) right, otherwise nothing will be exact at all.
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Re: Anatomy Study Dump

Reply #9 on: March 02, 2017, 05:39:14 am
Heh, sorry for not updating this thread, but my Photoshop CS2 stopped working and after multiple uninstalls and re-installs, I've pretty much given up on it. I'm probably gonna buy Aseprite this weekend so I can continue working on this stuff, so hopefully everything goes as planned.

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Re: Anatomy Study Dump

Reply #10 on: March 02, 2017, 06:02:34 am
You could also try Krita. It is a lot of fun. You can even map they shortcuts to match Ps.

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Re: Anatomy Study Dump

Reply #11 on: March 05, 2017, 09:53:29 pm
You could also try Krita. It is a lot of fun. You can even map they shortcuts to match Ps.

Thanks for telling me about this! It feels good to draw again!

Anyway, I decided to trace the skull that Cyangmou posted so that I could get a better understanding of where things go and how things are shaped.



I don't really know if I did it correctly, but I now have a better understanding of general facial structure now than I did with my previous attempt.

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Re: Anatomy Study Dump

Reply #12 on: March 05, 2017, 10:14:25 pm
try to trace the reference a few more time pretty roguhly to get a feeling for the sizes of everything, and then try to draw it once more without tracing.
If you want to do hard mode, you also could try to draw one out of mind after tracing/drawing after reference a few times.
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Re: Anatomy Study Dump

Reply #13 on: March 13, 2017, 04:57:50 am
Alright, decided to trace this skull as I thought it was a better reference: http://i.imgur.com/HaANEkv.jpg

Managed to come out with this:



Didn't do the teeth because I have to go to school tomorrow. How'd I do?

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Re: Anatomy Study Dump

Reply #14 on: April 05, 2017, 01:37:30 am
Hi, sorry I haven't posted in a while. IRL things have been keeping me busy. However, in that time, an artist drew my friends picture of me (Here: http://i.imgur.com/eLj9uuB.png) and I decided to trace it and see how it would come out in pixel form. I haven't shaded it or anything, just want to see how the anatomy is. Disclaimer: I am not claiming the artwork as my own, only using it to practice stuff.

Sorry, this should've been in it's own topic.
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Re: Anatomy Study Dump

Reply #15 on: April 13, 2017, 12:24:31 am
Are there any problems with the skull I posted?

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Re: Anatomy Study Dump

Reply #16 on: April 13, 2017, 01:07:50 am
You haven't really put in any of the interior details! Don't just outline it, try to really get a feel for the contours and fiddly bits!
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Re: Anatomy Study Dump

Reply #17 on: April 13, 2017, 10:37:37 am
Try "painting" more roughly with larger brushes don't worry about messy pixels.
Just paint the silhouette in a solid base colour and clean the edges a little.
Then paint in the very darkest bits all in one colour.
Then add the next shade and block it all in to make the forms.
Add another colour for lighter areas and another much brighter one for highlights.
Only use a few colours and try to express the forms in confident blocks.
U dont want to try to shade or blend for this type of excercise.

Until ur eye is trained, it helps to reduce the reference image to a low colour count as this will show u much more easily but try to pay attention and learn to do it by eye.
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