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GR#104 - Rock Monster - RPG Projection

on: June 17, 2012, 05:47:43 am
Hello everyone!

This is a rock monster I made:


It's supposed to look like this:
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/archiv/fantasy/logos/ErdelementLev3.jpg

Tell me what you think.

C and C welcome!

Thanking everyone in advance.

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Re: Rock Monster

Reply #1 on: June 17, 2012, 06:59:07 am
It doesn't read very well. You need to use other methods of shading to get the depth needed to tell each body part apart.

I doodled a bit on it and changed the highlights to larger chunks instead. Also added some darker chunks and tried to sculpt some kind of face.



Obviously lots of readability issues remain, I was sorta just doodling randomly so I somehow put the face in between his shoulders..
And now that I look at your original version, I can actually start to see the shape you intended. (edit: nope)
To get the sense of more power I enlarged the hands and arms, but I think this needs to be even more extreme, and the arms should bend inwards more.
And since I didn't find any legs I just made him pop out of the ground by adding a few rocks around the base.

« Last Edit: June 17, 2012, 02:38:12 pm by Seiseki »

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Re: Rock Monster

Reply #2 on: June 17, 2012, 08:14:33 am
I am so sorry that I forgot to mention the perspective. I tried to use 3/4 perspective and this is how I tried to make it:



Thanks for the reply Seiseki. I see how you've gien the depth to that rock creature of yours.
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Re: Rock Monster

Reply #3 on: June 17, 2012, 02:36:58 pm
what  Seiseki said, and drawing a diagrammatic pointing out what is what isn't going to help if it was for example in a game, rework and simplify you're forms, you are trying to tackle something I'm inclined to suspect might be a tad out of your range, colours aren't too bad, and some of it does reads like rocks, I read it along the same lines as Seiseki did torso, head and arms.

suggestions on increasing readability, try using a separate colour to define some glowing eyes, give him a protruding chin and strong mouth line/underbite

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Re: Rock Monster

Reply #4 on: June 17, 2012, 02:54:46 pm
I think the main problem here is, that the rocky elements that make up the monster are of simillar overall lightness - we can't the see the planes, the form that makes up the monster, it's looks like a more or less flat group of stones.

The perspective doesnt make things easier too - maybe try to make a few more drawings that would depict him in a straight front, side, top view etc. and then try a more "3d" viewpoint ;)

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Re: Rock Monster

Reply #5 on: June 17, 2012, 04:55:53 pm
Thanks a lot for your comments!

I tried to implement what you all said.



I didn't shade it completely because I wanted to show what I did and then if it came out okay, I'll complete the shading process.

Thanking everyone who commented!
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Re: Rock Monster

Reply #6 on: June 17, 2012, 05:10:16 pm
definitely reading more along what you initially intended, angle/perspective is a bit strange, kinda like someone doing push-ups,
or if you look at it as if it was front on it looks like a muscular baby doing handstands, just saying  :lala:

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Re: Rock Monster

Reply #7 on: June 17, 2012, 07:54:59 pm
Hope you don't mind if I have a play (also my first edit of all time - on someone else's work.)  ;)

The clean version you put up looked a little too clean. I took a look at the art work you posted and it's has a lot of bulk behind it. More like a Rock Gorilla.

So here is a quickie trying to re-create that feel.


« Last Edit: June 17, 2012, 07:57:31 pm by chipbit »
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Re: Rock Monster

Reply #8 on: June 18, 2012, 07:24:30 pm
First get your basics right, a construction could help, the sideview is easier to draw.
Then block in your colors
And maybe add some details.
It's just roughly blocked out, but I hope you got the idea how it is working. I already showed you how to make it with the tree, it's completely the same here.



« Last Edit: June 18, 2012, 07:28:46 pm by Cyangmou »
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Re: Rock Monster

Reply #9 on: June 19, 2012, 03:47:38 pm
Cyangmou, thanks for that tutorial. I used it this time! Last time I couldn't understand it but this time I paid attention to it and found it as extremely helpful technique!

Here is what I made looking at that tutorial and your edits:


If you think that the perspective is right now, I'll make this piece 64*64 and clean the lines.

Also the problem I find atm is about shading rock textures.

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